Innovative Idea

[lil bitch Kid]

I was looking at another thread about which FE'ed talents we'd like to see back, and it gave me an idea, at least an interim idea. When I started reading that people wanted Deuce, Domino and Cherry as well as DH Smith brought back to re-team with Tyson, the idea jumped off the screen. Add to that the idea of KoW reunion and the signing of Sara DelRay, it became even better.

Why not combine the Tag division and the Divas' divisions? I mean literally add one divs to each tag team and make it like a 6 person mixed tag title.

Some divas will easily match up with tag teams and others may take some work. One of the big arguments out there is that titles don't mean anything and that the tag and Divas' divisions are both weak. This would help solve the problem.

Discuss...

 

[Skinsley]

The rule is, and is likely always to be that the Diva in a mixed match must always be against the other Diva.
So the entire concept of the hot tag would be kind of lost when it comes to the Tag division we have now. The Man tags the Woman and then the other guy has to get out of the ring so the Female can step into the ring....boring.

Also, the tag division would either be gonne or weaker because teams would be feuding in the MaleFemale division....and that would be stupid.
This idea could never work in WWE but im sure TNA will try it one day.
It would be like lining up the Hart foundation and the Road Warriors and collectively doing a huge dump on all of their faces.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Not really seeing it. Ultimately, it just sounds like something that'd come off as little more than filler by the time its all said and done. The only way I think this would even have a snowball's chance in hell of succeeding would be if WWE HEAVILY strengthened and revamped the Divas. As it stands, the Divas Division as a whole is pretty worthless. Fans know it, hell they see it, so Diva involvement now automatically tends to just drag anything its connected to down as irrelevant filler.

As for guys like Deuce, Domino and DH Smith; I never saw anything in them. They're all three pretty much duds in my eyes, especially DH Smith. Deuce & Domino probably have a better shot at coming back as DH Smith has gone the route of bitching and moaning online as to not being "used right" and the same other lame shit guys that just don't have it spew. To make it worse, Smith's big mouth mother got in on the act and blasted WWE for letting her son go, so he probably won't be back in WWE and it's certainly not WWE's loss in my opinion.

WWE has several good tag teams going right now. The tag team scene isn't great, but it's healthier than it has been in years. The Prime Time Players, The Usos, Kofi & Truth, Gabriel & Kidd and Reks & Hawkins are all solid teams. As I said, it's not great but it's healthier than TNA's tag team scene is. That should let you know just how far tag team wrestling has fallen in TNA.

 

[DDelaware2009]

WWE has several good tag teams going right now. The tag team scene isn't great, but it's healthier than it has been in years. The Prime Time Players, The Usos, Kofi & Truth, Gabriel & Kidd and Reks & Hawkins are all solid teams.

Not trying to be a smart "arse", but I'm not seeing THAT. PTPers haven't really done anything yet except been hot-shotted to a tag team title match (in another going-to-fail attempt to get AW over), Usos are Superstars/Main Event material, Gabriel & Kidd are hardly a tag team (except when WWE needs to run someone out as a placeholder) and Reks & Hawkins are being used for Ry-Berg fodder.

To be fair, you may be commenting on their potential, and not on their results. I would agree with that- alot of it is that we have these pairings with no real direction/identity/gimmick

I don't agree with the OP's idea (although I do credit him with having the courage to at least suggest it) but I also don't think the Tag Division is anything close to "good", either. Kofi and Truth are a hodge-podge team themself, with Truth replacing Evan Bourne.

I think something we CAN all agree on is that we want to see the WWE place some value on the Tag Division, and even the Divas division, in order to make more interesting TV.

 

[The Crock]

Not trying to be a smart "arse", but I'm not seeing THAT. PTPers haven't really done anything yet except been hot-shotted to a tag team title match (in another going-to-fail attempt to get AW over), Usos are Superstars/Main Event material, Gabriel & Kidd are hardly a tag team (except when WWE needs to run someone out as a placeholder) and Reks & Hawkins are being used for Ry-Berg fodder.

I'd have to agree with Jack-Hammer here. The teams aren't being used as best as they can -- the division still isn't a primary focus -- but they're all pretty good. The Prime Time Players are new, but they're good together. They've got some chemistry and could prove to be a decent team with Abraham Washington at the helm. Gabriel and Kidd, along with Reks and Hawkins had all been putting on great matches on the old NXT and Superstars, the problem being that a lot of people never saw those. They're all fine young teams, who can put on some great matches, they just don't get the time on the main two shows to really show off their abilities.

If they (the WWE) stay committed to actually rebuilding the tag team division, they've got a fine foundation of teams. Fans are just too impatient with these things, though. The division doesn't have any really legitimate teams yet, so it's going to take time to establish them. It seems like the Prime Time Players are being hot-shotted to the top, but they're a good team, they're just not that familiar with the fans. Like you said, though, they've got potential.

 

[Dagger Dias]

That's.... a TERRIBLE idea. Arguably one of the worst that I have heard in a long time.

The Tag Team Division needs to be revived, not put out of its misery. Merging it with the Divas would only cause the fans to care about it even less. The matches would suck and so would the teams. Can we say predictable? The men face each other until the women tag themselves in, and vice versa. I would boycott the division forever if this happened. Now if you mean having the divas be managers for the tag teams, I would not entirely be against that.... but they need their own division as well. There are women out there who wish to become champions but cannot face the men for their titles, they need a title to fight for no matter how bad of a shape the division is in. Both divisions need to remain intact in order for them to become important again. Merging them would be a gigantic step in the wrong direction. They can take some of the divas who cannot wrestle and have them be managers for some of the tag teams, that I'd be fine with. Meanwhile, WWE would never go through with something like this due to how the merge would destroy both divisions. Very few, if anyone, would care about the new division it would create.

 

[Last Man Standing]

It's not the worst idea ever.

But I agree with those that say that the Tag Team Division needs more focus first. Yes, they've made some strides, but not nearly enough. Once WWE would have an abundance of teams & Divas, your idea could work, but we are a long away from that happening.

 

[DeathClutch]

I love listening to guys/gals personal opinions and their thoughts that would improve the product but honestly we all believe our opinions would be more benifical but realistically we're apples and oranges to WWE, we the fans have some form of logic that we believe is awesome, WWE when they debut/redebut talent try to seperate them from their past most of the time and repackage them.

Personally I was amped for Justin/Kidd tag team but I'm more enthralled by Kidd's MITB opportunity this weekend, I'm hoping WWE don't pull some form of 'injury' like they did to Cara last year.

 

[Fansince1992]

Late 80s - Early 90s was the best time for tag team wrestling for me, look at some of the teams :-

Leigon of Doom
Hart Foundation
Demolition
Power & Glory
The Rockers
The Bushwhackers
The Natural Disasters
Money Incorporated
The Orient Express
The Nasty Boys
The Beverley Brothers


Later we saw :-


The Dudley Boyz
The Hardy Boyz
Edge and Christian
Brothers of Destruction


Of all the teams mentioned (apart from Edge and Christian) they all had a unique name for thier team, and wore Colourful/Dark attire to match thier gimmick.

I really never understand throwing 2 random guys together like they do today. It seems the Tag Division lacks investment, or there is no time to focus on Tag Teams. The Tag Team Titles should always be defended at PPV's. It is just starting to look better though, but give Epico & Primo a proper Tag name, they do have the look. Agree with other posters that throwing a Diva and a tag Team together would pretty much crap in the Faces of teams like LOD and The Harts.

 

[lil bitch Kid]

Sin Cara's injury last year was due to a Wellness Violation.

Clearly, the point is a ill bit missed. The problem is that neither division is going anywhere right now and everyone talks about how great they could be. Well, obviously, in current states, the E isn't going to offer up a whole lot of time and energy in the tag division. Most decent teams with decent gimmicks get split before they can really get going. The Divas are mostly skin matches and blown spots. The idea of putting them together adds a wrinkle to both to create buzz.

As for the 'hot tag' argument, you do know that in any 6 man tag, it's determined who gets the tag, right? Also, you know that the large majority of the time, the othe team tags too, right? Matches are worked and a good booker makes it work.

 

[Kizzani]

This Idea is lame because as the Tag team Division falls into obscurity, the divas division is rising in leaps and bounds.

The Divas and Knockouts Both have a few stars that can carry a match. AJ is one of the hottest things out there ( literally as much as figuratively). Kharma the human rhino is about to return soon and will shake the divas division up seriously. ( who can beat her legit?) Natasha, and Beth are on a break but will vamp up when Kharma gets back. adding Del Rey who is ugly but can wrestle is another good touch, then toss in Angelina love she is rough but looks hot until she gets better. The divas champion is layla and I know that without looking because she is kinda relevant ( thanks to AJ).

Tag Teams Finding superstars who careers are on the rise who are willing to share the Tag team spotlight ( LOD,New age outlaws) is rare everyone wants to be the next Cena. I have bad new s for those clowns, Cena is to big you will have to wait til he quits or take a serious injury if you want a chance. Why not shine bright as a tag team with a friend. The current Tag champs are I think Truth and Kofi and seriously that is just a random guess. I don't know because the tag team division is deader than Matt Hardy's career. PTP, Hunico, Reks and puppet, Usos, and whoever else is pretending to be a tag team they all seem forced.

So to add a rising division ( Divas) with the biggest joke in wrestling ( tag team division) (Sorry Robbie E barely edge them out.) would be a travesty. The divas have been a joke for so long ( since Trish, Mickie) they have worked hard to get back to relevance and now they are almost there there is no reason to make them try and pull up the drowning Tag division.

 

[Headman]

I'm not a fan of this idea. Better booking and more teams is all you really need to get the division back on track. They've also gotta stop breaking up teams the second they start getting over.

 

[zephyrs]

I'm sorry. This doesn't seem as a good idea at all. I'm all for adding value and building tag team wrestling, but people don't tune in to watch Divas matches; so I don't see how adding them to tag teams would help tag team wrestling.

The only thing that can help the tag division is WWE caring about the tag division, and actually creating permanent teams, rather than the random pairings that they've been using. WWE is too focused on the singles main event picture to care about tag teams.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Timeout! Innovation might be the very thing killing wrestling right now. I remember Russo tried many new ideas in WCW, and the slow kill was televised. Having a MixTag championship just pushes for lazy booking.

I can imagine it now. Well, these guys aren't getting used. Let's see if they will work together in this format.

Go back to the original stuff. You got an UN-used piece of eye candy. Have her escort the cocky heel to the ring. Have the heel mistreat her, then get a face to come to her rescue. That storyline has worked for years in all levels.

You want something innovative though. I have a strange idea... Dump the Twitter Accounts! Twitter Wars, and generic phrases being typed by someone else doesn't build talent. I'll give it to Zack Ryder. He did become a fan favorite with social networking. Hell, he has the most awkward television time. Yet he has bigger pay checks then the tag team and diva champion combined. Oh sorry, I'll get back to the subject of the Mix Tag Team Division.

No no no... Now maybe do the role reverse. Have a big guy be a manager for the Female wrestler. Have him talk her up, and sell her like no tomorrow. Granted it won't help the Women's division. But heck, it gets a few more eyes some other talent.

Hell, get Wimplemen back and have him manage Karma. That would work very well.

 

[Workrate]

I can get on board with having a "diva" aligned with all or most tag teams, but I don't think six man inter-gender tag matches in lieu of both a women's and tag team division would ever, ever succeed. I get that the concept is to consolidate the two "divisions" so that it makes them able to have the time to address both, but I just don't see it at all. It's difficult to sit through the occasional inter-gender matches that they have now, so I find it extremely hard to fathom that segments would be devoted to it on every show.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Not going to work sadly, even though the idea is not "The Worst Ever", The Shockmaster, THAT was the worst ever!

WWE is slowly working to rebuild things, but it's doing it smartly. First, you need managers, not Diva's but proper characters at ringside. Vickie was the catalyst for it, she's got the same witchy traits as Sherri had with the modern "cougar" twist. AW so far hasn't worked, but like Slick it will take time to build the character. AJ will be a good manager, hopefully for Dean Ambrose or ultimately Bryan.

The 80's tag era worked because tag teams generally had the managers but the managers were generally a good fit to the team, The Hart Foundation had Jimmy Hart, Bulldogs had Lou Albano, Fuji had Demolition and later Orients and Powers Of Pain.

Some teams bombed because of poor manager choice. The Beverly Brothers would have been a brilliant Heenan team, but with The Genius it didn't work. The Quebecers had Johnny Polo, and that sucked.

Matches then used the manager to disguise the mechanics of the match like the Hot Tag and the 5 count to leave the ring. If Anderson and Blanchard were double teaming, Heenan would break the count so it was a 10 or 15 in reality, if The Nasty Boys were struggling, Hart would use the Megaphone to berate the ref or clonk the opponent.

Go back and look at tag teams and that kind of stuff is why they were good and they are missing today. Once they find the right managers and fit them to teams, then the division will begin to pick up.

Who would I like to see?

JBL - Would be a brilliant manager for a tag team with his APA heritage. I'd put him with Kings Of Wrestling or The Brisco Brothers, that JBL's money and knowledge got them into the WWE at last. Give him Del Rio as a singles and the stable is complete.

Mick Foley - Foley could do a good job with a young team, he reminds me a lot of Captain Lou these days and could play a similar role.

Dustin Rhodes - Not Goldust, Dustin. I think it'd be very cool to see him team with Richie Steamboat for a while (as he did with his father) and become kind of the mentor figure. Steamboat is likely to need help on the mic and Rhodes has no problems carrying that end. I see Richie being a tag figure with someone like Bo Rotunda and this fits.

Bray Wyatt - He is injured and needs surgery, but the character is too good to wait. Bring him in now as a manager and let him wrestle later. The gimmick would need someone to be "turned" by him and I think the former "Air Boom" would be a good team for that. Kofi is overdue a heel turn and it'd be logical to use "the fans don't love you like I do" and Bourne's "troubles" as motivation for him "drinking the coolaid" that Wyatt is dishing out.

 

[Skinsley]

Bray Wyatt - He is injured and needs surgery, but the character is too good to wait. Bring him in now as a manager and let him wrestle later. The gimmick would need someone to be "turned" by him and I think the former "Air Boom" would be a good team for that. Kofi is overdue a heel turn and it'd be logical to use "the fans don't love you like I do" and Bourne's "troubles" as motivation for him "drinking the coolaid" that Wyatt is dishing out.

Now that is an idea I like to see.
Bray Wyatt being the manager of his own little three or more man stable before eventually joining in as a wrestler himself would be fantastic.
My only gripe is that I would prefer to have another pair of Hicks to join him. Debut this idea during NXT tapings first and see if he can recruit guys like his brother Bo Dallas and another up and comer who needs a little direction.
See if they get over and roll on from there.
I think he had (damn ive forgotten his name, "MUSTACHE") as his follower in FCW, but I never had much hope for him....hence I forgot his name.... But maybe bring him back and see what happens?

 

[lil bitch Kid]

Now that is an idea I like to see.
Bray Wyatt being the manager of his own little three or more man stable before eventually joining in as a wrestler himself would be fantastic.
My only gripe is that I would prefer to have another pair of Hicks to join him. Debut this idea during NXT tapings first and see if he can recruit guys like his brother Bo Dallas and another up and comer who needs a little direction.
See if they get over and roll on from there.
I think he had (damn ive forgotten his name, "MUSTACHE") as his follower in FCW, but I never had much hope for him....hence I forgot his name.... But maybe bring him back and see what happens?

Yeah, it's a good idea. So good, in fact, it was called, well, first the Ministry, then years later, the Straight Edge Society. Oh, and for the original post, Air Boom doesn't exist anymore as Bourne was Wellnessed then injured, and R Truth has the tag straps with Kofi.

I don't pretend I had the greatest idea in wrestling, but if we're going to be critical, at least be critical with knowledge.

There are lots of guys out there that WWE COULD use as tag teams, but the reason they aren't is because the E doesn't see value in teams and they want to make stars. People watch Divas for the skin, not the wrestling, so use that to get teams over.

 

[Skinsley]

Indeed you are right. It has been done before.
But please, what has not been done before? Wrestling is filled with Rehashed idea's that just go around and around the block until they hit the right note.
And when something new does finally come along and it gets over....eventually somewhere down the line that idea will be repackaged and reused on another set of stars.

Your idea will not work, what knowledge must I use in my critique that will make you less of an arse about things? You asked for peoples opinions and then bitch and moan when you didnt get the right response. I was not the only person that found your idea flawed.