I am thrilled to see Sammartino go so far this year. In years past he has lost some matches I questioned. While I could accept his loses to Thesz and Race in the previous two years he has lost twice to Booker fucking T. If that isn't the biggest joke ever nothing is.
Agree about Bruno losing to Booker T. That's absurd.
Part of me is a little sad at the fact that I believe a lot of this success has to do with his induction into the WWE Hall of Fame rather then on his accomplishments themselves. I hate to think that he will fail to do well in later tournaments. Still, beggars can't be choosers.
It makes sense, as his induction is a way to inform the current people who Bruno is. Don't be sad about it, as the people who vote in this were not around when Bruno was on top (myself included).
This is an interesting matchup as it is the man who built the WWE vs the man that followed. Both are great champs who represented the company well, where great draws and wrestled in big matches. But still, when comparing the two Hogan just doesn't stack up.
And here is where we disagree. Hogan built WWE/WWF. Bruno was the face of the WWWF.
Basically, Bruno was the top guy for Vince Sr. and Hogan for Vince Jr. Vince Jr. took the regional company of Vince Sr. and built a Global Empire.
Sammartino was a 2 time World champ for a total of 4040 days.
Hogan is a 14 time world champ for a total of 3373 days.
Advantage Sammartino.
Given the era in which Hogan was champ, it is arguable that Hogan has the advantage. Hogan was on TV defending in high profile matches with more regularity, and was defending a national championship, instead of a regional one like Bruno.
However, I will give you this one.
Sammartino is the second biggest draw in wrestling history, only behind Jim Londos.
Hogan is fifth behind Londos, Sammartino, Lou Thesz and Bill Longson.
Advantage Sammartino.
This is completely subjective. And based on the fact that Hogan wrestled in front of MUCH larger crowds, I'd say Hogan was a bigger draw. The largest audience Bruno was in front of was Mania 29 when he was introduced with the Hall of Fame class.
Sammartino was in great shape, is arguably the strongest wrestler ever, has never been linked to drugs, fought constantly for better health conditions for wrestlers and to this day still works out for hours everyday.
Hogan was in great shape but has fallen apart, is a comical shell of himself and has been linked to drugs.
Advantage Sammartino.
This is virtually irrelevant when it comes to who would win the wrestling match with both men in their primes.
Sammartino, through hard work and dedication, became a national and global star. He would defend his title in the northeast, Canada, the Midwest in the old WWA territory, California, Mexico, Austrailia and Japan. This without cable television, PPVs or Vince Jrs pocketbook.
Hogan was a national and global star because he was pushed to the moon by Vince Jr and his big bucks.
Advantage Sammartino, but this one is close.
1. It was with Vince Srs pocketbook that made Bruno do all that he did.
2. Hogan took Vince Jrs vision and made it what it became. He deserves a ton of credit for what WWE became.
This isn't Sammartino's and you know it.
Sammartino twice saved the WWWF from closing. In the 1960s afte it floundered with Rogers as champ and in the 70s when he came back early from a broken neck because closed circuit tickets fell horribly shy of what was needed and Vince Sr was going to lose everything. This was at Shea stadium during the Inoki/Ali match.
Hogan helped take the WWF to incredible heights( along with Vince Jr ), but the company was always strong. You could argue he help raise WCW, but since he also buried it...
Advantage Sammartino.
So Bruno saved a regional promotion twice. Hogan built a GLOBAL promotion (WWE) and a NATIONAL promotion (WCW). Again, how is that Sammartino?
Oh, and Hogan main eventing WrestleMania saved WWF/WWE. If he wasn't there, the PPV fails and the company is done.
Sammartino was a selfless worker who often put the sport before himself.
Hogan not so much.
Advantage Sammartino.
Again, completely irrelevant for this instance. Even though you are accurate in your statement, it has no bearing on who would win a match between the 2 in their prime.
Sammartino was so great and over that Vince Jr worked out a deal to bring Sammartino out of retirement while in his 50s. During this time he routinely dominated such stars as Randy Savage, Honkytonkman and Roddy Piper, whom Sammartino beat cleanly in a cage match.
Hogan left, after a screwy finish in 1993, and Vince Jr didn't try to stop him. He brought him back in the early 2000s as a novelty act.
Advantage Sammartino.
Irrelevant. Both men were past their primes.
Also, Hogan retired (Vince can't control that) and went to the competition, nearly put WWE out of business, then went back to WWE and won the championship, which Bruno didn't do when he returned. And given the steroid trial, having Hogan back would not have been smart.
Hogan often told us to say our prayers.
Sammartino had a private audience with The Pope. And while I can't prove it I have it on good authority that during that meeting Sammartino pinned God.
Advantage Sammartino.
Hysterical, but irrelevant to the topic at hand. Besides, God would only interfere for one person, his tag team partner, Shawn Michaels. Even then probably not, since God walked out on him in his only match.
Sammartino has been a devoted husband and a loving family man.
Hogan...
Advantage Sammartino.
Completely irrelevant again, even though it's accurate.
While both are in the WWE Hall of Fame and in The Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame in Amsterdam, New York; Sammartino is in the Italian/American Sports(not wrestling) Hall of Fame, The International Sports Hall of Fame and is on the MSG Walk of Fame.
Advantage Sammartino.
Say it with me. Completely irrelevant again, even though it's accurate.
Sammartino has received the Key to the City for Jersey City, New Jersey. Should help with the hometown crowd. Oh, this happen recently, not years ago.
Considering about 0.001% of the audience would be from Jersey City, New Jersey, this is irrelevant. Even then, just because the lead politician in a city honors someone, that doesn't mean everyone will love him.
Sammartino has had a CBS documentary done on him. It was a weekly show showcasing Sports stars.
Hogan had a cartoon.
Advantage Sammartino.
So a weekly show showcasing Sports stars did an episode on Bruno. That's awesome. Of course this was during his career I bet, back when wrestling did not admit to being predetermined.
You want to know what IS impressive?
If you look at the date on that Sports Illustrated cover, you will notice it say April 29th, 1985. This was AFTER professional wrestling was confirmed to be not legit sport. No other professional wrestler has EVER been on the cover of Sports Illustrated.
Other impressive Hogan facts:
He hosted SNL (only wrestler to do it is The Rock), he was in countless movies (they sucked, but still). He was literally the title cartoon character in a Saturday morning cartoon. You act like this is nothing. This is a MASSIVE deal, even if the show was crap.
Sammartino was noted for being a hard consistent work who would often wrestle 28 out of 30 days a month.
Hogan has long been criticized for his easy schedule, even in the 80s.
Advantage Sammartino.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Completely irrelevant, even if it's accurate.
Following the rules of this game: Sammartino squashed Santo while Hogan won a grueling match with the Undertaker.
Advantage Sammartino.
Hey, a statement that I actually agree with. Bruno has the advantage here. That doesn't mean he will win, but that he is fresher.
If you look at it in an intellectual way, understanding exactly what each man achieved and how they did it then the obvious choice is Sammartino.
Or Hogan, based on his accomplishments in a shorter time blowing Bruno out of the water.
If you get a happy woody eating your Mr T cereal watching Hulk Hogans cartoon in your Hulk Hogan underoos...
Or I actually look at the 2 people and come to the conclusion that the greatest professional wrestler in the history of the business would win this match, and his name is HULK HOGAN.
Besides, the Mr. T cereal is ridiculously past it's use by date (I didn't even know one existed, if it did), finding episodes of the cartoon is not very easy, and not only do I not own Hulk Hogan underoos, I wouldn't fit into childrens underoos if I did.