Yes. Knowing the difference between character alignments and archetypes in D&D is totally relevant to this discussion. I mean, if someone doesn't know that, what else might they not know? LOL! Rolling smiley face! Clearly, your point is proven. (Sarcasm, I guess we're stating that outright on the boards now.)
Another example of you using sarcasm terribly.
You want to be correct prior to using sarcasm, it helps the sarcasm have any actual weight to it.
And who was talking about D&D besides you?
Weak arguments- and forgive me for not multiquoting you, I'm not doing the fucking quote wars thing, learn to address discussions as a whole instead of sentence by sentence- like "Hogan is a face who is marketed as being the ultimate hero who vanquished evil, facing an embodiment of evil greater than average but not an all-time great." Facing strong arguments like, "well Lesnar and Warrior have large upper bodies, they're the same archetype, and Lesnar cells better than Hogan because chair shots." (That was sarcasm.)
One more time, try being correct when you use sarcasm, it helps to give it weight. I am addressing discussions as a whole, or am I deleting parts of your posts?
You got me. (Sarcasm again.)
One more time, try being correct when you use sarcasm, it helps to give it weight.
So was the bit about "storyline/booking is irrelevant", but you missed that, so now we're saying it outright every time. That was supposed to be implied by the idea of next round's Meng/Vader match.
All I have to say is:
Now then. Zeus is the same archetype as Lesnar, and Lesnar is the same archetype as Warrior, than- transitive property here- Zeus is the same archetype over Warrior, yet one lost to and one beat Hogan in his prime. The MMAth comparison you're aiming at doesn't work, and maybe, just maybe (the maybe is sarcastic) claiming a wrestlers' overall archetype as 'big muscled guy' is both irrelevant to the discussion and too broad of a category to be of any use. Want to illustrate the ridiculousness of the archetype discussion? Prime Hogan vs. Prime Mason Ryan. Who wins?
Mason Ryan would lose because in every aspect he is fairly inferior to Lesnar. That's
every aspect mind you, so you can try to keep up and understand. And.. "archetype over Warrior." What?
Listen, you've already proven you can't follow along with what's being said, so I'll try to say it in the simplest way possible.
Hulk Hogan, prime Hulk, is a bruiser/brute archetype. His fighting style is straight forward, no finesse, relies heavily on his strength and "invincible endurance."
Ultimate Warrior is a bruiser/brute archetype. His fighting style is straight forward, no finesse, relies heavily on his strength and "invincible endurance."
Undertaker is a bruiser/brute archetype. His fighting style is straight forward, no finesse, relies heavily on his strength and "invincible endurance."
Brock Lesnar is a bruiser/brute archetype. His fighting style is straight forward, no finesse, relies heavily on his strength, however, he's not known for an "invincible endurance."
How do you not understand this by now?
Being as Extreme Rules is on... let's go over some of the people we see:
Big E: bruiser/brute archetype.
Batista: bruiser/brute archetype.
Cesaro: Is at least partially a bruiser/brute archetype.
Wade Barret: Another partial.
Kane: bruiser/brute archetype.
Kuslov: bruiser/brute archetype.
Should I go on?
Know who's not a bruiser/brute that we've seen?
Xavier Woods
Randy Orton
RVD