WWE Summerslam 2015 - The Undertaker VS Brock Lesnar

[Jack-Hammer]

The big news from last night's Raw is that Taker vs. Lesnar for SummerSlam is official. After a very well executed brawl segment that emptied the locker room to separate the two, eventually, and great emotional displays by both Taker and Lesnar, I have to admit that I'm feeling more optimistic about this match. I don't really know why, though I think it might have to do with Taker being in much better overall condition now than he was 15 months ago.

That being said, I'm still skeptical as to how they can pull this off in a way that delivers a satisfying finish. I also still have my doubts & concerns regarding Taker's health due to going up against the ultra stiff Brock Lesnar once again. I do think one thing that'll help this match is that fan anticipation is probably gonna be higher than it was 15 months ago because nobody really believed Lesnar would end the streak; now that the streak is out of the way, this match could have more of a "it could go either way" feeling to it.

Personally, I'll be satisfied if they can deliver an entertaining match that doesn't result in Taker being injured. I think there's a better chance of that as Taker is obviously much fitter and feeling better than he has in quite a while since he's being advertised for WWE events after SummerSlam.

 

[Deoxyribonucleic A.C.I.D.]

The story for this match writes itself and I believe that it will get way more personal in the coming weeks, something that Lesnar's feuds (from Lesnar's part) have been lacking. Undertaker wants retribution for the mockery he received, while Lesnar wants retribution for the title that he never got back, due to Undertaker's appereance.

Both Lesnar and Taker will be booked as monsters going into the match, possibly once again, like the 'Mania build-up, Undertaker domintating in the coming weeks. There's no denying, that Brock Lesnar is a modern day Undertaker, regarding his build, his dominance, his relevancy and the fear he strikes in his opponents.

About Undertaker's health and if he could withstand another match with Lesnar, well, that Mark Callaway's worry and his doctors, not ours. To be frank, Undetaker looked way more healthier than what he looked heading into WM 29 & 30. Maybe it's the hair.

Regarding the finish. I'm 50-50. If Lesnar wins, then what was the point in bringing Taker back just to be defeated for a 4th time by Lesnar on PPV? A theory is that, WM 31's plan is still in motion and was pushed back for WM 32, which means that Reigns vs Lesnar might be happening again at Texas. Lesnar beating Taker again, makes the rub fresh and possibly brings back Lesnar's heat. However, that's just a theory.
If Taker wins, then it takes away the impact that Lesnar carries after breaking the streak and also makes Lesnar receive his first pinfall loss in 2 years, a rub, that was supposed to Roman Reigns'.

I'm split. As a fan, I want Taker to take back his pride and retribution and finally get a 1-on-1 victory over Lesnar. Lesnar owes him one anyway. However I could totally understand, from a bussiness standpoint, Lesnar going over again. Lesnar is here to stay while Taker is close to retirement. Lesnar keeps his mystique and dominance intact, while heading in WM 32, and possibly using all of his momemtum to push a rising star.

It's something like a heart vs brain scenario. If there's any possibility WWE, to have a rubber match between these two, with Lesnar going 2-1, then please give Taker this victory. However, a rubber match seems unlikely, so as much as it hurts me, my prediction is: Brock Lesnar goes over once again.

At the end of the day, WWE is a bussiness.

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

I have to admit that I'm feeling more optimistic about this match. I don't really know why, though I think it might have to do with Taker being in much better overall condition now than he was 15 months ago.
I do think one thing that'll help this match is that fan anticipation is probably gonna be higher than it was 15 months ago because nobody really believed Lesnar would end the streak; now that the streak is out of the way, this match could have more of a "it could go either way" feeling to it.

This is why I'm amped for this match. When 'Taker returned at Battleground I was pissed he screwed Lesnar. After last nights Raw I can't fucking wait.

It really could go either way. That's the mark of a great contest. When we think we know what's going to happen it takes away from the match. Now though we don't know if 'Taker wins to propel him forward, if Lesnar wins to continue his unstoppable journey or, and wait for it, Sting returns at SummerSlam to screw 'Taker. A bit out there on the last one i know but i'm sure they could make it logical.

What is also great about this, and i hope it stays this way, is that there is no clear cut fan favorite. Granted that could change and admittedly 'Taker is probably more in favour with the fans, but I hope it's just Man Vs Man. No good guy or bad guy. That way, along with the unpredictability of who is coming out on top, we could have one of the most highly aniticpated SummerSlam Main Events ever!

 

[laodaron]

So, being truly honest, the build up to this match will far surpass their actual match. No hocus pocus hand stabbing, this is the REAL Deadman v. the 1 in 21-1. They LOOKED like they hated each other. The LOOKED like they wanted to actually murder each other.

The problem is that at Battleground, Undertaker had to ask Brock to help him out on the Tombstones, which makes me a SUPER skeptic about their ability to do a match any justice. Brock is still such a beast, but I just don't know what sort of abilities The Undertaker will have.

But I marked hard last night on Raw, so I'm ready to be ok with just about anything. Just don't have Brock lose, because probably some of the best booking in the last 18 months has been Brock's unstoppable streak.

 

[Mustang Sally]

But I marked hard last night on Raw, so I'm ready to be ok with just about anything.

Which keeps WWE matters running according to plan. Here's Undertaker again; just as folks said he doesn't have 'it' anymore ('it' in parentheses because I'm still trying to figure exactly what 'it' is) and just as you figure the last performer the brittle-boned old man should be going up against is Brock Lesnar......here we go again.......and based on what we saw last night, how can 'Taker fans not be looking forward to it?

Just don't have Brock lose, because probably some of the best booking in the last 18 months has been Brock's unstoppable streak.

But Brock will lose. I can't imagine any purpose for making this match except for 'Taker to gain his revenge.....a revenge we didn't even know he wanted until Battleground. But man, he brought the goods last night, didn't he? Even at 50, he still looks like a gunslinger; the man you run from when he walks into the saloon.

This further explains why Brock didn't win the world title on Sunday night; Lesnar will lose at Summerslam but management doesn't want 'Taker as world champion.....nor does he. For whatever reason, he's here to work a program. Boatloads of money probably persuaded him.

If he lives through this, he'll even get to spend it.

 

[laodaron]

Which keeps WWE matters running according to plan. Here's Undertaker again; just as folks said he doesn't have 'it' anymore ('it' in parentheses because I'm still trying to figure exactly what 'it' is) and just as you figure the last performer the brittle-boned old man should be going up against is Brock Lesnar......here we go again.......and based on what we saw last night, how can 'Taker fans not be looking forward to it?



But Brock will lose. I can't imagine any purpose for making this match except for 'Taker to gain his revenge.....a revenge we didn't even know he wanted until Battleground. But man, he brought the goods last night, didn't he? Even at 50, he still looks like a gunslinger; the man you run from when he walks into the saloon.

This further explains why Brock didn't win the world title on Sunday night; Lesnar will lose at Summerslam but management doesn't want 'Taker as world champion.....nor does he. For whatever reason, he's here to work a program. Boatloads of money probably persuaded him.

If he lives through this, he'll even get to spend it.

I don't think that Brock loses. In fact, I think that Brock gets the rub off of another win, re-establishing him as the literal dominant force in the WWE, and Taker moves on to fight Sting for some reason or another at Survivor Series. Then, finishes his career at Wrestlemania in a retirement match, a la Shawn v. Flair.

 

[aaronmb]

I don't think that Brock loses. In fact, I think that Brock gets the rub off of another win, re-establishing him as the literal dominant force in the WWE, and Taker moves on to fight Sting for some reason or another at Survivor Series. Then, finishes his career at Wrestlemania in a retirement match, a la Shawn v. Flair.

I almost see this happening, but what Id do is Lesnar winning at Summerslam, then challenging Lesnar one more time at SS, being the 25th anniversary of Takers debut. Taker loses, then they hype that he'll have a big announcement on Raw, implying that he's retiring. Simply have him do an emotional speech, with Sting coming out, challenging for one final match at Mania.
As for Lesnar, Id have him in the Royal Rumble, probably at #1 and just totally dominate it.

 

[Prince Vee]

I don't have any concern over this feud and match happening at Summerslam. I'll absolutely enjoy it. But I've only once concern. Is The Undertaker completely fit to face "Brock Lesnar" because Brock can be reckless in the ring not to say the least. And I don't reckon I'm the only one who noticed The Undertaker's knee was heavily guarded during his interference at the Battleground? Does that an indication that The Undertaker is not cent percent fit or is he trying to keep himself safe?

 

[FlairFan2003]

I don't think that Brock loses. In fact, I think that Brock gets the rub off of another win, re-establishing him as the literal dominant force in the WWE, and Taker moves on to fight Sting for some reason or another at Survivor Series. Then, finishes his career at Wrestlemania in a retirement match, a la Shawn v. Flair.

Taker didn't come back to job out.....He's on his "last run" and he'll likely win a lot before he's done. Lesnar is a part timer who is already made with the audience, he doesn't need the win and likely will disappear shortly afterwards anyway. Taker looks like he may be sticking around, in fact WWE is already advertising him for the house show tour AFTER S-Slam.

If anything this looks what WWE did for Flair.....they're going to give Taker one last Big Push, a bunch of wins, and let him ride off into he sunset at Mania. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him win his last match (unlike Flair & HBK & Austin) just because he already lost "The Streak" but either way this is Taker's last hurrah.

He beats Lesnar at S-SLam....clean and decisive, but it will be a close match before that. Where he goes next Im not sure, maybe a feud with The Authority (it makes perfect sense that HHH would not want a renegade Taker on the lose destroying his money making talent) - In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sting is brought back to HELP Taker down the road, the lone wolf "Deadman" getting aid from the The Vigilante against the corruption of The Authority.

 

[FlairFan2003]

I don't have any concern over this feud and match happening at Summerslam. I'll absolutely enjoy it. But I've only once concern. Is The Undertaker completely fit to face "Brock Lesnar" because Brock can be reckless in the ring not to say the least. And I don't reckon I'm the only one who noticed The Undertaker's knee was heavily guarded during his interference at the Battleground? Does that an indication that The Undertaker is not cent percent fit or is he trying to keep himself safe?

Who says Brock is "reckless"..... I haven't read or heard one interview from anyone that says Brock is reckless or careless in the ring. Just recently both Kurt Angle & Ric Flair commented on how smooth and professional he is in the ring. He didn't have any issue in his matches vs HHH or John Cena more recently.

 

[laodaron]

Taker didn't come back to job out.....He's on his "last run" and he'll likely win a lot before he's done. Lesnar is a part timer who is already made with the audience, he doesn't need the win and likely will disappear shortly afterwards anyway. Taker looks like he may be sticking around, in fact WWE is already advertising him for the house show tour AFTER S-Slam.

If anything this looks what WWE did for Flair.....they're going to give Taker one last Big Push, a bunch of wins, and let him ride off into he sunset at Mania. I wouldn't be surprised if they let him win his last match (unlike Flair & HBK & Austin) just because he already lost "The Streak" but either way this is Taker's last hurrah.

He beats Lesnar at S-SLam....clean and decisive, but it will be a close match before that. Where he goes next Im not sure, maybe a feud with The Authority (it makes perfect sense that HHH would not want a renegade Taker on the lose destroying his money making talent) - In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sting is brought back to HELP Taker down the road, the lone wolf "Deadman" getting aid from the The Vigilante against the corruption of The Authority.

Number 1, there's a tradition in wrestling to retire while putting over the active guys on the roster. Taker is the quintessential traditional guy.

Number 2, Brock Lesnar is a full time wrestler. There's literally nothing part time about him. Just because you think he should work more dates it doesn't change definitions. He's around all year, this is his full time job, he just doesn't work as many dates as other guys.

Number 3, the ONLY people who care about wins and losses are marks on the internet. The Undertaker doesn't care about taking a pin, because professional wrestlers don't care one way or the other, as long as their brand isn't damaged.

Number 4, The Undertaker doing a House Show circuit after Summerslam has zero bearing on the finish of the Summerslam match.

Number 5, Pushing The Undertaker is like "Pushing The Rock" when he comes back around. It doesn't matter if they win or lose, they just help bring money into the company.

I can't see any value in the greatest champion in probably 20 years laying down for a 50 year old man. I don't mind Brock getting beat, but the fastest way to devalue him is to have him take a pin in the ring from The Undertaker.

Maybe you see value in it, but we can disagree. Either way, pro wrestlers rarely care about the things you commented on in your reply.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

Number 1, there's a tradition in wrestling to retire while putting over the active guys on the roster. Taker is the quintessential traditional guy.

Number 2, Brock Lesnar is a full time wrestler. There's literally nothing part time about him. Just because you think he should work more dates it doesn't change definitions. He's around all year, this is his full time job, he just doesn't work as many dates as other guys.

Number 3, the ONLY people who care about wins and losses are marks on the internet. The Undertaker doesn't care about taking a pin, because professional wrestlers don't care one way or the other, as long as their brand isn't damaged.

Number 4, The Undertaker doing a House Show circuit after Summerslam has zero bearing on the finish of the Summerslam match.

Number 5, Pushing The Undertaker is like "Pushing The Rock" when he comes back around. It doesn't matter if they win or lose, they just help bring money into the company.

I can't see any value in the greatest champion in probably 20 years laying down for a 50 year old man. I don't mind Brock getting beat, but the fastest way to devalue him is to have him take a pin in the ring from The Undertaker.

Maybe you see value in it, but we can disagree. Either way, pro wrestlers rarely care about the things you commented on in your reply.

Brock Lesnar is part-time. It's just plain stupid to not see that.

 

[adam]

I think ultimately Kane is going to be involved in this match for the Taker in the end is not going to be able to hold up without help.

 

[Crocker]

Number 1, there's a tradition in wrestling to retire while putting over the active guys on the roster. Taker is the quintessential traditional guy.

Number 2, Brock Lesnar is a full time wrestler. There's literally nothing part time about him. Just because you think he should work more dates it doesn't change definitions. He's around all year, this is his full time job, he just doesn't work as many dates as other guys.

Number 3, the ONLY people who care about wins and losses are marks on the internet. The Undertaker doesn't care about taking a pin, because professional wrestlers don't care one way or the other, as long as their brand isn't damaged.

Number 4, The Undertaker doing a House Show circuit after Summerslam has zero bearing on the finish of the Summerslam match.

Number 5, Pushing The Undertaker is like "Pushing The Rock" when he comes back around. It doesn't matter if they win or lose, they just help bring money into the company.

I can't see any value in the greatest champion in probably 20 years laying down for a 50 year old man. I don't mind Brock getting beat, but the fastest way to devalue him is to have him take a pin in the ring from The Undertaker.

Maybe you see value in it, but we can disagree. Either way, pro wrestlers rarely care about the things you commented on in your reply.

Well said.. Undertaker beating Lesnar destroys the whole point of breaking the streak, as well as kill Lesnar's heat. After 18 months of looking unstoppable, he finally gets beat clean, and that rub goes to Undertaker, like what? Whats the point of breaking the streak then, to put over Brock Lesnar as an unstoppable force? There is just no payoff.. the payoff should be to put over Roman Reigns as the next mega-star, but that mission failed, so if they're smart they would hold off until Reigns is finally ready

 

[laodaron]

Brock Lesnar is part-time. It's just plain stupid to not see that.

Could you please explain how you think Brock Lesnar is part time? It's his only job, he travels the world to do it, he's around very regularly, just not as regularly as you would like to demand.

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

You all are stupid. Brock Lesnar is part-time because he shows up part of the time. What is wrong with you guys?

 

[legendkiller1979]

I'm intrigued by this match. You have a face vs face match. I'm interested to see how this will play out. We all knew Rollins was going to walk out of battleground with the WWE title. My eyes got real big when Lesnar hit the F5 and hooked the leg. There wasn't nearly enough time for a heel to make the save. So just like that, with nothing else happening, Lesnar is now in the position to be the heel. I'm not sure how this is going to work since he way probably the most over wrestler in the company right now. I'm sure people will be chanting for suplex city during the match while cheering for the dead man. Raw was a lot of fun last night. Lesnar got a big pop when he came out to confront the undertaker. I'm sure the WWE would prefer that Lesnar go into this match as the heel. I don't think the fans will allow that to happen

 

[laodaron]

You all are stupid. Brock Lesnar is part-time because he shows up part of the time. What is wrong with you guys?

That's his gimmick as well as his contractual dates. What's wrong with you? He's there year round, every year since he returned. It's not like Rock that shows up once a year or so, or Undertaker or HHH who wrestle one match a year. He's a full time talent. This isn't his part time gig, this is his only job.

 

[Stan Hansen]

That's his gimmick as well as his contractual dates. What's wrong with you? He's there year round, every year since he returned. It's not like Rock that shows up once a year or so, or Undertaker or HHH who wrestle one match a year. He's a full time talent. This isn't his part time gig, this is his only job.

That doesn't make him a full time performer. Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Stan Hansen]

Seth Rollins, John Cena, Roman Reigns, Dolph Ziggler, Dean Ambrose those are full time performers.

Brock is not a full time performer and he doesn't need to be.

 

[laodaron]

That doesn't make him a full time performer. Why is this so hard to understand?

Because he's a full time performer. Your arbitrary requirement for him to be there for more dates does not make him part time.

 

[King502]

Broke the streak broke his baby bro's ankle and now taker is here to break Lesnar im pumped

 

[Pedigree1]

Taker looked a lot better this time around than he did 15 or so months ago! But against a stiff Brock I dont know.. This feud feels different than it did at WM30. The fan participation helps this out a lot and the brawl this past MNR makes it much more real.. I cannot wait until SummerSlam!

I am totally optimistic they can deliver a entertaining match and I actually think Taker goes over in this match extracting his revenge otherwise what was the point in bringing him back in the first place? Besides that will even the series and we need to have a rubber match between the two somewhere down the road like a HIAC to finally end the feud possibly at WM32 at Cowboy Stadium

 

[Sexcellence of Sexecution]

Obviously having Undertaker win this match is completely pointless.

The only logical outcome is for Brock Lesnar to win, and to win in decisive fashion. Lesnar has not only beaten Taker at Mania to end the Streak, he's beaten him several times before that. So what can you do for the finish of this SummerSlam match to make it stand out and put Lesnar over even more? The answer is pretty simple. He makes the Undertaker tap out.

The Undertaker basically never taps out ever. I think he might have tapped during his heel run like 13 years ago but outside of that I don't think it's happened. Brock Lesnar literally beating the Deadman into submission would be another huge achievement to add to his list. He ended the Streak, he destroyed John Cena, and now he makes the Undertaker tap out. Beast.

Then after getting rekt by Lesnar, Undertaker can come out to address the fans on RAW when Sting interrupts. Sting says that he knows the Undertaker doesn't want to go out like he did at SummerSlam, and challenges him to one final match at WrestleMania. Then all you fucking marks can get your damn old man dream match at Mania and the Undertaker can retire.

 

[Stone Cold Tea]

Because he's a full time performer. Your arbitrary requirement for him to be there for more dates does not make him part time.

Stop been so difficult. It's blatantly obvious that he is a part time worker. I may be able to accept the notion he was a full time performer if he was there for more than half the televised events but he isn't. Not even close. He has probably given us 6 full months of television since his return in 2012.